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Treo? Palm? Blackberry? HELP!?!

I know there is probably a blog on this somewhere, and I will look for it when I have more time, but in the meantime--can anybody help me figure out which of these to consider?  I need something Supra-capable, and want something not-too techie (I've had my Razr for nearly a year, and I'm still figuring it out...).  The SmartPhone apparently also does Supra. 

Here's the list that the GE Security guy gave me for Supra-capable gadgets: (anyone with any experience with these, please comment!)

Mobile Manager (PalmOne)

- Life Drive (PC-Internet and Wi-Fi)

Palm (PalmOne)

- Vx (Modem Cradle only)

- m130 (Modem Cradle and PC-Internet)

- m500 (Modem Cradle and PC-Internet)

- m505 (Modem Cradle and PC-Internet)

- m515 (Modem Cradle and PC-Internet)

Sony Clie

- Clie SJ-22 (PC-Internet only)

- Clie SJ-33 (PC-Internet only)

- Clie TH-55 (PC-Internet only)

- Clie TJ-25 (PC-Internet only)

- Clie TJ-27 (PC-Internet only)

- Clie TJ-35 (PC-Internet only)

- Clie TJ-37 (PC-Internet only)

Tungsten (PalmOne)

- Tungsten C (PC-Internet and Wi-Fi)

- Tungsten E (PC-Internet only)

- Tungsten E2 (PC-Internet, Supra eSYNC Modem)

- Tungsten T (Modem Cradle and PC-Internet)

- Tungsten T2 (Modem Cradle and PC-Internet)

- Tungsten T3 (PC-Internet, Supra eSYNC Modem)

- Tungsten T5 (PC-Internet only) (NO Extended Listings at this time)

- Tungsten W (PC-Internet and Wireless; Cingular/AT&T Wireless)

- Tungsten TX (PC-Internet and Wi-Fi)

Zire (PalmOne)

- Zire 21 (PC-Internet only) (Basic eKEY service only)

- Zire 31 (PC-Internet, Supra eSYNC Modem)

- Zire 71 (Modem Cradle and PC-Internet)

- Zire 72 (PC-Internet, Supra eSYNC Modem) Treo (Handspring/PalmOne)

- Handspring Treo 270 (PC-Internet and Wireless; Cingular and T-Mobile)

- Handspring Treo 300 (PC-Internet and Wireless; Sprint)

- Handspring Treo 600 (PC-Internet and Wireless; Sprint, Cingular/AT&T Wireless, Rogers Wireless, Sasktel Wireless, SunCom, T-Mobile, Verizon)

- Handspring Treo 650 (PC-Internet and Wireless; Sprint, Cingular/AT&T Wireless, Verizon, SunCom, Alltel)

- Palm Treo 700P (PC-Internet and Wireless; Sprint, Verizon, Alltel)

- Palm Treo 680 (PC-Internet and Wireless; Cingular)

- Palm Treo 755P (PC-Internet and Wireless; Sprint)

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- Palm Treo 680 (PC-Internet and Wireless; Cingular/AT&T, or any GSM provider if the phone is unlocked*)

Windows Mobile Rev 4.3

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- Palm Treo 700W (PC-Internet and Wireless; Verizon)

- Palm Treo 700WX (PC-Internet and Wireless; Sprint, Alltel, Verizon)

- T-Mobile MDA (T-Mobile)

- Cingular 8125 (Cingular)

- PPC (or XV) 6700 (Sprint, Alltel, Verizon, Qwest)

- Palm Treo 750 (PC-Internet and Wireless; Cingular)

- Cingular 8525 (Cingular)

- HP iPAQ hw6925 (Cingular)

- HP iPAQ hw6945 (Unlocked)

Others

- Kyocera 7135 (PC-Internet and Wireless; Alltel, Tellus Mobility, Verizon)

- Samsung i500 (PC-Internet and Wireless; Sprint)

 

Also, I have T-mobile right now, so that's going to be a factor as well...feedback from Florida/Tampa Bay folks on who you've used and had the best luck with is also appreciated!

Anyone who doesn't have time to read through all the comments--Chris Molina posted some really helpful stuff here: http://activerain.com/blogsview/88771/Real-Estate-Agents-Can

Thank you, Chris!

 

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Comment balloon 39 commentsLoretta Buckner • July 10 2007 12:08PM

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How funny.  I was just looking at Treo vs. Blackberry on Verizon moments ago....  I just got confused and gave up.
Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago
we need to network on this one, Maureen!  I don't think Blackberry is supra-fized, tho...
Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago

I thought that was the case.  I think I can do mls on a Blackberry but I will still need an ekey...  I think I need a Treo... but I am just putting it off. I want an iPhone but I hear the phone part is no good.... I don't really like talking on the phone... I prefer email... and it is just the internet so the MLS part would work.  I will put it off a month or so.

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

I didn't know blackberry's could do mls...ignorance is bliss I guess.  Somebody that knows all of the answers needs to come tell us what's what!  ;-)

I know I want e-key, becasue I'm such a flake about making sure it's updated and on my person at all times--both e-key and mls would be amazing!!

Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago
I will watch as well...I have heard (only a rumor) that the new BB from Verizon can be used with the supra key, but the MLS does not say so?  I really like the BB for the email capability!
Posted by Robert Elfand, RAA over 12 years ago
flake good or flake bad Loretta.  I can't find my key or my phone half the time.  I might be better off with two separate devices in some ways.  
Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

oh great--now we have small pellets to add to our arsenal?!  the only BB I know works in air rifles...

you know, Maureen, I often wonder if my efforts to simplify don't just add to my misery!

Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago
I don't have any of those but experience with different devices tells me there is no one great device.  I have heard good things about the trio and know of people here that use them for the MLS and Supra.  If you want the most compatable machine go with a Palm based device.  If you want the most capable go with a Windows device.  If you want one that does email real well go with the BB (if adding programs is something you want go with the Palm)  Keep in mind that the Treo comes in two flavers-Windows and Palm.  Also not all wireless networks can utilize all features of the phones.  My sister has a BB and uses a network called NTELOS.  She can't use the GPS feature.  The most important feature to me is being able to use voice commands and a lot of smart phones aren't that smart.  Imagine, not being able to say "call so and so" from you headset.  Hope I didn't muddy the waters.
Posted by Gene Allen, Realty Consultant for Cary Real Estate (Fathom Realty) over 12 years ago

wow--really great info, Gene!  and here's where I show my anti-tech status:  I can easily imagine not being able to use voice commands, since I haven't gotten around to using my RAZR for that!  ahe ahe...(embarassed silence...)

that's it--going back to chalkboards, string, and cans...

Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago
I seldom  use the voice commands on my present phone.  
Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

Loretta,

I will share what I have heard from some of my Realtors.  Most of them are using the TREO because of its Supra capabilities.  I have not heard them really say anything bad about the phone.  As far as the MLS, any of them should work provided they are internet capable.  With service providers, I would suggest polling your friends and co-workers to see how they like their service provider.  If you hear that one network drops more and has dead zones in certain places, then you know who not to use.

As a mortgage professional, I use the Moto Q.  It doubles as a modem, so I can be anywhere with a client and still have high speed broadband to pull credit and run DO/DU.  It saves me from having to carry an extra card and paying another monthly fee.  I am not sure if the Moto Q will work with Supra, but based on your list, I would say no.

Hope this helps.

Posted by Jason Price (Mortgage Financial Group, Inc) over 12 years ago

Sciott Hoag wrote:"With service providers, I would suggest polling your friends and co-workers to see how they like their service provider.  If you hear that one network drops more and has dead zones in certain places, then you know who not to use."

Is the service somwhow different when you are using a Blackberry or Treo than with a regular celll phone? I don't want to change service providers,   That doesn't even enter into a decision for me...

big data easier to drop somehow...??

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago
I took back my windows based Treo and got the Palm based one. It's better but I still don't like it. It is, however, better than having two things to carry around with me.
Posted by Deb Hurt, ABR, e-Pro,Green, TRC (Realty Pro Albuquerque) over 12 years ago

wow...more food for thought...I think my brain has a thyroid problem...

Jason, here's my thinking on the mls issue, which didn't even occur ot me until I heard that the iPhone was MLS-capable--it's not just the internet connection, it depends on the browser as well.  I know that there have always been issues with AOL, for instance.  I'm not sure if there are other issues having to do with wireless interent as well, there may very well be.  Good info, and thank you!

Scott & Maureen:  I will never go into a T-Mobile store again--that's how I managed to get stuck with extra phones on a family plan I did not need--they do not do business with the same level of integrity that I do, let's put it that way!  And, T-Mobile DOES drop alot of calls, especially lately--they must have changed towers or something--I hear they lease tower space and it can change.

  As for data-drop, what I've been told by the numerous techies I've spent much time chatting with--the more complex the device, the less juice they have to put into manintaining a signal--I noticed immediately when I got my RAZR that I'd have less bars than with my old, simpler phone.

Deb:  OK, Windows vs. Palm--I take it Palm has their own operating system?  so maybe this is where MLS compatibility comes in???  what exactly don't you like about it, and can you/do you access MLS?

Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago

Scott,

Your comment sounds very familiar...  I would be careful on copy and pasting people comments, as it is just as bad as copy and pasting posts.

Loretta,

You're welcome.  And good luck with your quest. :)

Posted by Jason Price (Mortgage Financial Group, Inc) over 12 years ago

Loretta,

I wrote a blog a few months ago about this topic and I constantly find agents who pose the same questions you do...I usually just direct them to my blog and it answers a lot of their questions regarding the Treo.  Here's the link:  http://activerain.com/blogsview/88771/Real-Estate-Agents-Can

Enjoy!

Chris Molina, Realtor®
Elk Grove CA

Posted by Chris Molina, Realtor, Elk Grove CA (Cooper & Associates Real Estate) over 12 years ago
OK I think they ALL suck! but if I had to go with one I would say TREO... oddly enough you DIDN'T mention IPHONE   that would be ##1 for me :-D
Posted by Katrina Madewell, Tampa FL Homes for sale | Tampa Bay - (813) 777-1196 (Charles Rutenberg Rlty- More than 5,000 agents(813) 777-1196) over 12 years ago
I have a friend who loves her Treo, however she is a Graphic Designer and does not have to access MLS.  She simply has to be able to give a quick response to her accounts and can do that easily through her Treo either via email or texting.  I watched her use the keypad on her Treo and it appeared to be fairly user friendly.
Posted by Joy & Shane Goushaw (Sandals Realty) over 12 years ago

Chris--thank you, thank you!  what a great post that was!

Katrina: iPhone doesn't have Ekey capability--therin lies the rub!  have you used any of them?

Hey Joy:  thanks for posting that--a good first-hand user account.  Can you find me a cheap vacation place down there in Sanibel?  ;-)  one of my all-time favorite places!

Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago

Hi Loretta

I was looking at these types of phones recently & noticed the same phone costs twice as much on Verizon, which is what I have, as compared to competing carriers. How does that work?

Posted by Joe Dallorso, Ocala Real Estate over 12 years ago

Joe--it wouldn;t work for me!  I do not believe you have to buy your phone from your carrier (do you?  anyone know?)--I would purchase the phone, and transfer the sim card--I've done it with cell phones, why wouldn't it work with these? 

Great--now we've got a whole new twist...

Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago

I've been pretty happy with my Cingular phone and the new 8525 version of my phone has dsl speeds from what I understand. That has been the only draw back with my phone....It isn't so speedy.

Posted by Respect Realty LLC, Brokers - Oregon / SW Washington Real Estate (Respect Realty LLC) over 12 years ago
The jury's still out on whether I think another gadget is in my near future...thanks for posting, Todd!
Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago
Is is worth the expense to combine them? I change phones every couple of years -
Posted by Billnulls Blog Florida Realty Professional, AHWD (Charles Rutenberg Realty) over 12 years ago

You don't have to buy your phone from the same carrier but a lot of phones are locked which means you can't remove the sim cards and change them. Also you have to find a carrier that uses the same type of signal (CDMA and GSM).

Posted by Gene Allen, Realty Consultant for Cary Real Estate (Fathom Realty) over 12 years ago
...and it's no wonder I'm still using my RAZR!  I think I'm going to try switching my family plan to one which includes internet and everything...thanks for posting, Barb and Gene!
Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago

Depending on what you need it for.. I just got rid of my Treo I was tired and it not working right etc. I went back to a cell phone. The cell phones do so much these days. I send and recieve mail, look at the net, take pictures, download movies, videos, music, it has a calander in where you can write down things. I got the samsung. I am with Verizon and did you know they give realtors discounts.

Just my 2 cents

Carla Cullum

Keller Williams Dallas Ft Worth Denton

Posted by Carla Cullum (Integrity Team Keller Williams Flower Mound ) over 12 years ago
Hello. I have recently begun using the iPhone . All is can say is WOW! The internet capabilities are remarkable. Especially for an appraiser on the run.. The technology even allows you to zoom in to read smaller fonts on the web.. I am a very pleased owner... -Meg
Posted by Meg Stewart, Appraiser-Frisco, Texas (Reliable Appraisal) over 12 years ago
You know, Carla and Meg, I guess what it all boils down to is that it's "each to his/her own"--I myself prefer simplicity--while I can see the advantage of having info at my fingertips wherever I go, I have also not seen any real detriment to not having it, either.  I always have to weigh the degree to which a gadget becomes a maintenance item, and in my world--they all do, eventually!
Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago
If you're leaning the treo direction just know that the palm version (not windows) has more to offer with the supra product.
Posted by Chuck Willman UtahHomes.me, Utah Homes (Utah Homes) over 12 years ago
I am leaning Treo, Chuck, but wouldn't the palm version ve harder to sync with my windows on the computer?
Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 12 years ago
Loretta, I have a Treo, Palm based, and I do not have any problems trying to sync with windows on my computer.
Posted by Paul Durry, Former Broker Associate, CDPE, CIAS, CHMS (National Mortgage Field Services) over 12 years ago
I have the Treo 700... it does MLS and I can even zap the Lock Boxes open with it... no keeping up with those stupid keys! It is the only thing I have ever recommended to anyone. Kinks? A few but they are small and next to the Treo 700 there is NONE better for me...
Posted by TX RE GUY over 12 years ago
Hmmm...more food for thought on this subject...thanks for posting!
Posted by Misty Thomas, Realtor Crosby, TX (Houston Realty) about 12 years ago

Blackberry is the best

Posted by Johnathan Smith (Coldwell Banker DiTommaso Realty) over 11 years ago

Blackberry Software is not ready for Windows Vista in many cases.  Google search Blackberry Destop Manager error and have a field day with the links that come up.  Mine was the dreaded 1904 error.

I basically spent a Lost Weekend last weekend(we're talking many hours and multiple phone support calls - and I'm good with computers and technology. 

Going to ATT today to get another Palm.

Posted by Anna Boyd, CDPE, El Dorado Sacramento (Re/Max Gold) over 11 years ago

Loretta which phone did you end up going with?  Personally I think the best phone for Realtors at this moment in time 08/27/09 is the Palm Pro (not the Palm Pre) which has pretty much everything a Realtor could want.  Yes the iPhone is sexy but it's incompatable with Supra and the Blackberry as I understand it needs a special Fob attachment that Supra makes seperately.

Posted by Tarris Rogers, Bend Oregon Real Estate (Cascade Sotheby's International Realty) over 10 years ago

Tarris, this is a little embarassing, but...I still haven't chosen!  Isn't it amazing how we learn to adjust to what we have if we take long enough to study the competition?  I am leaning toward Blackberry at the moment, now that they've added Supra capability to it.  I have such an issue with tech learning curves, I tend to have to be forced into making a change...yikes, that makes me sound old!

Posted by Loretta Buckner, Your GREEN Real Estate Consultant For Life! (Real World Properties, Inc.| Your Real Estate Consultant for Life) over 10 years ago

The reason you need the Dongle is that Blackberries do not have an Infrared Port which is what Supra uses to beam the signal.  As long as you don't mind an attachment to your Blackberry, my understanding is that they work fine.  Best wishes with choosing your new phone and I think taking your time is the best thing to do so that you end up happy with what you buy.

Posted by Tarris Rogers, Bend Oregon Real Estate (Cascade Sotheby's International Realty) over 10 years ago

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